"Leadership and strength?"

Is following the crowd when you know that the crowd is going the wrong direction leadership? Or is it craven pandering to gain the votes of the looney division of the Democratic party?

Using the war funding bill to press for a bugout is the most unleadership thing imaginiable. If Edwards really feels in his heart that we should just pull out then he should promote an end to funding. That would show some leadership, but he will not do that.

The only candidate showing clear leadership is John McCain (not my guy). Whether you agree with him or not you have to respect his leadership on this issue. He has taken a principled position, the politics be damned. That is leadership and courage.

everytime i hear john bachman's argument, i notice it is such an obvious republican ploy to get democrats to stop funding and hurt our men and women overseas. republicans are in it to win it, regardless of the harm they do to our troops and our society.

cutting funding without changing policy is like combining the WORST anti-war ideas with the WORST pro-war ideas.

funding without a timeline for withdrawal is a way to keep the discussion alive while we change policy. the current obama plan is to fund just enough to keep the troops safe till the president can be overridden by congress. sounds good to me.